Spelling a surname in Gaelic?

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Unread postby kuroshida » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:11 pm

Hello! My grandparents are Scottish but do not speak Gaelic, and I have been asking them if surnames are spelt differently in English and Scottish Gaelic and they can't seem to agree whether it is or isn't. Specifically, my name is Kayla Dinwoodie. Would that be spelt differently in Scottish Gaelic or the same?
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Unread postby GunChleoc » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:42 pm

Dinwoodie is not a Gaelic name as far as I know, so you would just keep it as it is.
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Unread postby faoileag » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:24 am

In case this helps:

Surname Database: Dinwoodie Last Name Origin
www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Dinwoodie
This is a Scottish name of territorial origin from the lands or barony of Dinwoodie in the parish of Applegarth, in Dumfriesshire. The original etymology of the place name is uncertain, possibly it derives from the Welsh words 'din', forest and 'gwydd' - shrubs or bushes.


So I would agree, not a Gaelic name (unlike e.g. MacLeòid, Caimbeul), just leave it as it is.

If you look at the BBC Gaelic News website, you'll notice names of politicians etc remain in their English (or other language) forms, unless it's a name with a standard Gaelic equivalent.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/naidheachdan/40276451

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Unread postby An Gobaire » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:23 am

Many surnames now considered Gaelic names were not Gaelic originally.

MacLeòid was not a Gaelic name, until the Gaelicisation of the Norse settlers. Neither of course were all the Norman origin names such as the Siosalaich, Frisealaich, Moirich, Fearghasdanaich, Moireasdanaich, Stiùbhartaich and so on.

Some modern-day native Gaels whose non-Gaelic surname sometimes appears in Gaelic form includes the notable Dòmhnall Mèic, (Dòmhnall Meek).

Also, many of the last native speakers of mainland Scottish Gaelic dialects had non-Gaelic surnames. I have a collection of oral tradition stories from Perthshire, and informants' surnames(both men and women) include names like "Scott", "Cumming" (Cuimeanach), Irvine, Keir, Lothian, Lowe, Reid (Raoid), ROse, Robertson (Robasdan), Small, Williamson.
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Unread postby Níall Beag » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:25 pm

Yes, but you can't just take any old name and suddenly Gaelicise it in a way that's going to mean anything to a native speaker.

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Unread postby conmaol » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:38 am

Tell that to ScotRail ;-)

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Unread postby An Gobaire » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:44 am

Fearghasdan doesn't mean 'anything' to a native speaker who doesn't know that it comes from ..'son. But it's a well-established Gaelic name.
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Unread postby GunChleoc » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:53 am

conmaol wrote:Source of the post Tell that to ScotRail ;-)

Or Facebook... :olc:
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Unread postby An Gobaire » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:18 am

Any name can have a Gaelic pronunciation as much as it can an English pronunciation. Do names always have to mean somthing? No. A bheil mi coma co-dhiù? Tha.
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