Abandoned and betrayed..

Thèid a h-uile iarrtais eadar-theangachaidh air imrich a-bhos an-seo. Ma bhios thu seachd sgìth dhaibh, na rach ann an-seo.
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Abandoned and betrayed..

Unread postby Shannon » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:50 am

Hello

Could someone give me the proper Scottish Gaelic spellings for the Irish tréigthe and bhràth/braith (sp? proper tense?). Or if they don't tr*nsl*t* properly, the Scottish for abandoned and betrayed?

Thank you!

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Unread postby akerbeltz » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:38 pm

Gaelic prefers a periphrastic way of doing that sort of thing, so air a thrèigsinn (for a guy) or air a trèigsinn (for a woman). Similarly air a bhrathadh or air a brathadh.

If you're being terribly formal and fancy, you could use trèigte and brathte. It's all in the context!

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Unread postby Shannon » Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:54 am

Thank you for your reply, however I am just as confused. You have reminded me why I gave up trying to learn Scottish Gaelic :)

If I can be more specific, what I'm looking for is a tr*nsl*t**n of the following from The Parting of Goll from his Wife...

...Of life and all bereft
High on this crag, abandoned and forsaken....


Can you say how it would be used in that context?

Appreciate your help.

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Unread postby akerbeltz » Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:41 pm

Irish grammar is a lot more complex than Scots Gaelic :b

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Unread postby Shannon » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:40 am

Irish grammar is a lot more complex than Scots Gaelic :b

Only in Scotland... :)

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Unread postby neoni » Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:00 am

tha an dà chuid furasta

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Unread postby Lughaidh » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:56 am

It depends.
Irish has more tenses but no distinction between conjunct and independent forms.
Scottish Gaelic uses the dative case, Irish has lost it except in some set phrases.
Gaelic pronunciation may be a bit more irregular and unpredictable...

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Unread postby Níall Beag » Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:04 pm

Lughaidh wrote:Gaelic pronunciation may be a bit more irregular and unpredictable...

Only because Irish is overeducated! Irish is to Gaelic like Public School English is to Normal English :-p

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Unread postby akerbeltz » Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:47 pm

Gaelic pronunciation may be a bit more irregular and unpredictable...


I object violently LOL. There is a beautifully regular correspondence between the spelling and the pronunciation in Scots Gaelic. It's just not always obvious at first sight. I've been collecting words for years now where the spelling is not reliable and it barely fills an A5 page... 8-)

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Unread postby Seonaidh » Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:03 am

'S e glè bheag a tha sgrìobhadh Ghabhardhubh...


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