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- Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:29 pm
- Forum: Gràmar, Fuaimean is Gnàths / Grammar, Sounds and Expressions
- Topic: Genitive - lenition wthout article
- Replies: 7
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Re: Genitive - lenition wthout article
That's super helpful - thank you Taic!
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:50 pm
- Forum: Gràmar, Fuaimean is Gnàths / Grammar, Sounds and Expressions
- Topic: Genitive - lenition wthout article
- Replies: 7
- Views: 82395
Re: Genitive - lenition wthout article
And droch/etc aren't really the same are they, as they're not nouns and therefore don't cause genitivisation, no? Or is the lenition totally separate from it being genitive?
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:48 pm
- Forum: Gràmar, Fuaimean is Gnàths / Grammar, Sounds and Expressions
- Topic: Genitive - lenition wthout article
- Replies: 7
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Re: Genitive - lenition wthout article
So the rule is as above, but if the stress is on the first word of a compound then it always lenites? Is the Faclair na Pàrlamaid wrong then, or just oversimplifying it?
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:11 am
- Forum: Gràmar, Fuaimean is Gnàths / Grammar, Sounds and Expressions
- Topic: Genitive - lenition wthout article
- Replies: 7
- Views: 82395
Re: Genitive - lenition wthout article
Here's what's in Faclair na Pàrlamaid, but that doesn't help me understand the Calder examples! It also, to compound my confusion even further, gives "glainne-fhiona", with lenition, for wineglass - that's what I would've expected following the rules, if I hadn't heard "glainne-fiona&...
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:02 am
- Forum: Gràmar, Fuaimean is Gnàths / Grammar, Sounds and Expressions
- Topic: Genitive - lenition wthout article
- Replies: 7
- Views: 82395
Re: Genitive - lenition wthout article
A couple examples from the Calder book that I can't for the life of me work out. He says that the second noun is lenited if it's in the plural or "like an adjective accompanying a noun" (which I took to mean if the first noun in the compound is feminine, as in "màthair-chèile" ab...
- Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:35 pm
- Forum: Gràmar, Fuaimean is Gnàths / Grammar, Sounds and Expressions
- Topic: Genitive - lenition wthout article
- Replies: 7
- Views: 82395
Genitive - lenition wthout article
Sin sibhse, Another genitive question from me (!). Does there exist somewhere a simple explanation for when you lenite a genitive noun that doesn't have an article? I had always understood the rule to basically be: 1) If it's in the plural 2) If it's a masculine name 3) If it's part of a compound wi...
- Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:45 pm
- Forum: Gràmar, Fuaimean is Gnàths / Grammar, Sounds and Expressions
- Topic: Genitive with verbal nouns
- Replies: 6
- Views: 15831
Re: Genitive with verbal nouns
Okay so I'm persuaded that learners should make sure this isn't something left to come back to later, but I feel like I am pretty sure it is something I hear people - including native speakers - dropping fairly frequently. In Michel Byrne's Gràmar na Gàidhlig, he also notes that "not all speake...
- Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:24 am
- Forum: Gràmar, Fuaimean is Gnàths / Grammar, Sounds and Expressions
- Topic: Genitive with verbal nouns
- Replies: 6
- Views: 15831
- Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:07 am
- Forum: Gràmar, Fuaimean is Gnàths / Grammar, Sounds and Expressions
- Topic: Genitive with verbal nouns
- Replies: 6
- Views: 15831
Genitive with verbal nouns
Morning folks, an dòchas gu bheil sibh uile gu math! I have a question about the use of the genitive after verbal nouns - I know you are meant to, especially if the noun is in the definite, but I feel like I hear people not doing it all the time. Am I just mishearing it, or are people making bad and...