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Ciamar a chanas mi.... / How do I say...
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Unread post by ithinkitsnice » Wed May 11, 2016 7:14 pm

Tha mi air a bhith ag èisteachd ri a' phodcast 'Beag air Bheag' agus tha an ceist agam mu dheidhinn rudeigin.

Faicibh air seo (bhon thar-sgrìobhadh an seo):
Cha chreid mi nach eil thu (dìreach) air sin fhaighinn. ‘I think/believe you’ve (just) got that.’
Bha mi a' smaoineachadh gum bu chòir dha a bhith "air sin a fhaighinn"? Carson nach eil?

Is it just being dropped because 'fhaighinn' begins with a vowel sound, or is there another grammatical reason?



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Unread post by akerbeltz » Wed May 11, 2016 7:55 pm

air sin a fhaighinn
notionally, it is exactly that but because that comes out as /ɛrʲ ʃin ajɪNʲ/ the convention with fhVowel and Vowel- words is not to write the a.

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Unread post by ithinkitsnice » Wed May 11, 2016 9:43 pm

Cha chreid mi nach eil mi air e fhaighinn a-nis.

Tapadh leibh.

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Unread post by GunChleoc » Thu May 12, 2016 11:48 am

air e fhaighinn - you can't use e here - e is a personal pronoun, a is a possessive pronoun. You need the posessive pronoun.
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Unread post by ithinkitsnice » Thu May 12, 2016 2:30 pm

Ah yes, so "air dha fhaighinn" — assuming it's the augmented one I'm after? (mar 'chan eil me dha chreidsinn')

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Unread post by akerbeltz » Thu May 12, 2016 2:49 pm

the a in air (a) fhaighinn is the possessive pronoun, not a reduced form of 'ga. You're thinking of something like tha mi 'ga fhaighinn "I'm getting it" which in spoken Gaelic can reduce to tha mi 'gha fhaighinn.

It's not great idiom, though you may have been punning. I would have said tha mi agaibh a-nis or tha mi 'ga thuigsinn a-nis.

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Unread post by ithinkitsnice » Thu May 12, 2016 8:40 pm

Yes I meant "ga fhaighinn" there not "dha" :naire: , although point taken.

Tha mi agaibh a-nis.

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Unread post by GunChleoc » Fri May 13, 2016 10:03 am

Agus sinne agadsa :)
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