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Inversion question

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:14 pm
by ithinkitsnice
Tha mi air a bhith ag èisteachd ri a' phodcast 'Beag air Bheag' agus tha an ceist agam mu dheidhinn rudeigin.

Faicibh air seo (bhon thar-sgrìobhadh an seo):
Cha chreid mi nach eil thu (dìreach) air sin fhaighinn. ‘I think/believe you’ve (just) got that.’
Bha mi a' smaoineachadh gum bu chòir dha a bhith "air sin a fhaighinn"? Carson nach eil?

Is it just being dropped because 'fhaighinn' begins with a vowel sound, or is there another grammatical reason?

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Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:55 pm
by akerbeltz
air sin a fhaighinn
notionally, it is exactly that but because that comes out as /ɛrʲ ʃin ajɪNʲ/ the convention with fhVowel and Vowel- words is not to write the a.

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Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 9:43 pm
by ithinkitsnice
Cha chreid mi nach eil mi air e fhaighinn a-nis.

Tapadh leibh.

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Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:48 am
by GunChleoc
air e fhaighinn - you can't use e here - e is a personal pronoun, a is a possessive pronoun. You need the posessive pronoun.

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Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 2:30 pm
by ithinkitsnice
Ah yes, so "air dha fhaighinn" — assuming it's the augmented one I'm after? (mar 'chan eil me dha chreidsinn')

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Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 2:49 pm
by akerbeltz
the a in air (a) fhaighinn is the possessive pronoun, not a reduced form of 'ga. You're thinking of something like tha mi 'ga fhaighinn "I'm getting it" which in spoken Gaelic can reduce to tha mi 'gha fhaighinn.

It's not great idiom, though you may have been punning. I would have said tha mi agaibh a-nis or tha mi 'ga thuigsinn a-nis.

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Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 8:40 pm
by ithinkitsnice
Yes I meant "ga fhaighinn" there not "dha" :naire: , although point taken.

Tha mi agaibh a-nis.

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Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:03 am
by GunChleoc
Agus sinne agadsa :)