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Abandoned and betrayed..
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:50 am
by Shannon
Hello
Could someone give me the proper Scottish Gaelic spellings for the Irish tréigthe and bhràth/braith (sp? proper tense?). Or if they don't tr*nsl*t* properly, the Scottish for abandoned and betrayed?
Thank you!
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:38 pm
by akerbeltz
Gaelic prefers a periphrastic way of doing that sort of thing, so air a thrèigsinn (for a guy) or air a trèigsinn (for a woman). Similarly air a bhrathadh or air a brathadh.
If you're being terribly formal and fancy, you could use trèigte and brathte. It's all in the context!
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:54 am
by Shannon
Thank you for your reply, however I am just as confused. You have reminded me why I gave up trying to learn Scottish Gaelic :)
If I can be more specific, what I'm looking for is a tr*nsl*t**n of the following from The Parting of Goll from his Wife...
...Of life and all bereft
High on this crag, abandoned and forsaken....
Can you say how it would be used in that context?
Appreciate your help.
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:41 am
by akerbeltz
Irish grammar is a lot more complex than Scots Gaelic :b
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:40 am
by Shannon
Irish grammar is a lot more complex than Scots Gaelic :b
Only in Scotland... :)
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:00 am
by neoni
tha an dà chuid furasta
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:56 am
by Lughaidh
It depends.
Irish has more tenses but no distinction between conjunct and independent forms.
Scottish Gaelic uses the dative case, Irish has lost it except in some set phrases.
Gaelic pronunciation may be a bit more irregular and unpredictable...
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:04 pm
by Níall Beag
Lughaidh wrote:Gaelic pronunciation may be a bit more irregular and unpredictable...
Only because Irish is overeducated! Irish is to Gaelic like Public School English is to Normal English :-p
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:47 pm
by akerbeltz
Gaelic pronunciation may be a bit more irregular and unpredictable...
I object violently LOL. There is a beautifully regular correspondence between the spelling and the pronunciation in Scots Gaelic. It's just not always obvious at first sight. I've been collecting words for years now where the spelling is not reliable and it barely fills an A5 page...
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:03 am
by Seonaidh
'S e glè bheag a tha sgrìobhadh Ghabhardhubh...