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How do I say...

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:43 pm
by mcivor
Could someone please let me know how I would say:

'I will never forget'

Many thanks

Re: How do I say...

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:10 pm
by eideard
mcivor wrote:'I will never forget'
Cha dìochuimhnich mi a-chaoidh.

Re: How do I say...

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:27 pm
by mcivor
Thanks so much for that. I have a further question if that is ok.

I understand that Cha dìochuimhnich mi a-chaoidh means 'i will never forget him'......i think i understand that dìochuimhnich means forget and that chaoidh means never. Which part refers to the masculine subject? So how would I change the phrase to say just 'I will never forget'?

Thanks again!

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:07 pm
by faoileag
No, it just means 'I will never forget'.

You may have seen

Cha dìochuimhnich mi e a-chaidh: the 'e' is 'him'.

There is also a variation 'chaoidh', meaning the same as 'a-chaoidh', and you also see it without the hyphen.

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:48 pm
by Duncan MacCall
faoileag wrote:Cha dìochuimhnich mi e a-chaidh
This is even as an example in Mark Colin's dictionary - I don't understand, however, why it isn't lenited to "cha dhìochuimhnich". Can anyone tell me?

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:54 pm
by An Gobaire
It tends to be verbs beginning with the letter "f" that are lenited in the negative future tense.

Chan fhaigh mi a leithid a-chaoidh! for example.

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:49 pm
by horogheallaidh
also heard

cha diochuimhnich mi gu brath....

six and 2 3's - same difference etc :)

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:46 am
by faoileag
Traditionally, the future negative (Cha/chan) doesn't lenite the 'dts' group.

Think of 'cha' as 'chan', with the final 'n' blocking lenition of these consonants.

Cha dèan...
Cha tig...
Cha seas...

With f+noun, you get Chan fh..: chan fhàg...


as TAIC says, there is a tendency to lenite anything and everything now, so will find cha dh/sh/th).

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