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Re: Ulpan faighinn 700K
Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:22 am
by GunChleoc
Saoilidh mi gur e seo chnag na cùise: Feumaidh don luchd-ionnsachaidh cùrsa freagarrach a bhios furasta ri ruigsinn, agus feumaidh do na h-uile duine - an dà chuid na fileantaich agud an luchd-ionnsachaidh - cothroman cleachdaidh. Uill, tha seo gu math follaiseach

ach ciamar, seo a' cheist air nach eil a h-uile duine ag aontachadh.
ArtMacCarmaig wrote:Tha mi seo, Gun Chleoc. Thuirt mi nuair a ghabh mi ballrachd nach bithinn a' cumail sùil fad an t-siubhail ach gum bithinn a' tadhal an-dràsta 'sa rithist.
Thuirt agus chan eilear an dùil gun dèan thu an còrr. Is urrainn dhut cus ùine a' cosg air an lìon
Tha thu a' bruidhinn rinn bho àm gu àm co-dhiù nuair a bhios e iomchaidh agus chan ann air an làrach-lìn seo a-mhàin

Re: Ulpan faighinn 700K
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:29 pm
by Níall Beag
Although now that I think about it, I've always known this was the way the wind was blowing. When I first hard about the Ùlpan luchd-oide course I suggested it to a friend, who said he didn't need a course, as he already knew how to teach languages. He's a TEFL teacher by trade, and has always had a Gaelic class on the side when he could get the numbers. I said to him at the time that it wasn't about learning to teach, it was about getting the classes.
Ùlpan was always going to increase the overall number of active learners of Gaelic but that at the same time it was going to eat into part of the existing market.
I also figured it would get more attention from the public sector simply on the grounds of being uniform and infinitely reproducible.
I find the inevitability of the whole thing rather depressing....
My biggest fear is that it becomes established through inertia and becomes hard to shift when a decent methodology comes along. Looking at TEFL, the communicative approach was thought to be on its way out 15 years ago, but the sheer mass of the EFL industry has kept it going, and most people involved genuinely believe it's the best way to teach languages.
Re: Ulpan faighinn 700K
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:31 am
by Gràisg
I also figured it would get more attention from the public sector simply on the grounds of being uniform and infinitely reproducible.
Nach ann san roinn prìobhaideachd a tha Deiseal? Dè thachras ma bhios trioblaidean ionmhais no rudeigin eile san am ri teachd? Tha mi an dòchas gum bi sealbh 'copyright' aig Bòrd na Gàidhlig airson an t-airgead a tha iad a' cur a-steach.
Re: Ulpan faighinn 700K
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:43 am
by Níall Beag
Gràisg wrote:I also figured it would get more attention from the public sector simply on the grounds of being uniform and infinitely reproducible.
Nach ann san roinn prìobhaideachd a tha Deiseal? Dè thachras ma bhios trioblaidean ionmhais no rudeigin eile san am ri teachd? Tha mi an dòchas gum bi sealbh 'copyright' aig Bòrd na Gàidhlig airson an t-airgead a tha iad a' cur a-steach.
Yes, it's a private firm.
My point was about the councils and other bodies picking Deiseal as a sole supplier. Deiseal is the only company that can offer a single uniform course that they can scale to any size of organisation. Not only is uniform training vastly preferrable to HR departments, managing multiple supplier relationships is very time-consuming and expensive.
And as for copyright... it's a development grant. The government and various departments of the civil service give out plenty of these. And again, Deiseal is the only company that have got anything to actually request a development grant for.
Re: Ulpan faighinn 700K
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:56 pm
by akerbeltz
Then stop ... errr... debating and put a proposal that's better or equally good, scalable and reproducable and take that forward. You can't complain that someone is developing a monopoly without any proposal for a competitor. It's hard to sell something that doesn't exist yet, not even on the back of a fag packet.