Coimhearsneachd airson ionnsachadh is leasachadh na Gàidhlig.
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So, nuair a thaghas iadsan an cànan anns a bhios iad a' bruidhinn 's e mì-mhodh, nuair a thaghas tusa an cànan anns a bhios iad a' bruidhinn air an son tha e ceart gu leòr?*Alasdair* wrote:'s e mì-mhodh a tha is coireach.
Nan robh mi ag innse dhaibh gun dh'fheumadh iad a' Ghàidhlig a chleachadh, 's e mì-mhodh a bhiodh ann. Ach, ma bhios mi a' feuchainn mo dhicheall cànan, a th' aig an dithis againn gu ìre mhath, a chleachdadh agus 's iad a tha gam fhreagairt gu tur sa Bheurla 's ag ràdh rium "You shouldn't be wasting your time learning Gaelic", tha diofar mhòr ann. Turas sa Choop, sa Chaol, bha tè aig an till a' bruidhinn na Gàidhlig dha caraid, ach nuair a dh'ionnsaich an tè gur e luchd-ionnsachaidh a bh' anns mo charaid thionndadh ise dhan a' Bheurla gu math abruptly. There is nothing wrong with speaking to somebody in a language that you both have and expecting to get a reply in said language - that is the way it works in any other language after all.Thrissel wrote:So, nuair a thaghas iadsan an cànan anns a bhios iad a' bruidhinn 's e mì-mhodh, nuair a thaghas tusa an cànan anns a bhios iad a' bruidhinn air an son tha e ceart gu leòr?*Alasdair* wrote:'s e mì-mhodh a tha is coireach.
Not in Québec is doesn't.There is nothing wrong with speaking to somebody in a language that you both have and expecting to get a reply in said language - that is the way it works in any other language after all.
Mar a thuairt mi tha rudan mar seo gu math àbhaisteach ann an Canada.Turas sa Choop, sa Chaol, bha tè aig an till a' bruidhinn na Gàidhlig dha caraid, ach nuair a dh'ionnsaich an tè gur e luchd-ionnsachaidh a bh' anns mo charaid thionndadh ise dhan a' Bheurla gu math abruptly.
Ach an ne leisgeul math a th'ann an sin? Lemmings/idiocy by majority mar a chanas iad...tha a'mhòr chuid air mòran olc a dhèanamh san t-saoghal gu eachdraidheil...'S e nàdar dhaoine a bhith a' dol leis a' mhòr-chuid, a' dol leis an treud mar a chanas iad.
Ach 's e cànan eile a th' anns a' Ghàidhlig.Lewis91 wrote:Cultural differences? Chan e dùthach eile th'ann am Peairt.
If being understood is the most important thing, let's stick to English, because we all understand it better.Uill seadh, AlasdairBochd, chan eil mo bhlas cho math ri blas fileantachd, agus cha bhi e a chaoidh, o chionns nach e fileantachd a th'annam. 'S urrainn dha daoine mo thuigsinn, agus 's e sin an rud as cudromaiche.
Nuair a tha thu air ionnsachadh bhon ghlùn gu bheil e gu tur mì-mhodhail a bhith a' bruidhinn sa Ghàidhlig do choigrich no incomers, chan eil e furasta faighinn seachad air. Feumaidh sinn uile a bhith foighidneach ri chèile.McEWAN-FUJITA, EMILY (2010): 'Ideology, affect, and socialization in language shift and revitalization: The experiences of adults learning Gaelic in the Western Isles of Scotland', Language in Society 39, dd. 27–64. wrote:1 Flora: There’s this day this lady came in [to the bank], and, she– I think– if I remember
2 rightly she was a doctor, I can’t remember where she was from. But ((pause))
3 maybe it’s just making an assumption when people come in the door, and, you’ve
4 seen the {people walk} (_______), and you think, they’ll only have English
5 anyway, so, I don’t know whether it was that, that was on the brain but, this
6 particular lady had Gaelic. And she must have either, she must have learned the
7 language, and she was ((laughter started)) fairly proud of having I think, and she
8 was trying to talk to me in Gaelic, I couldn’t ((laughter ended)) really talk to her
9 in Gaelic, like, I couldn’t. My brain would just not (________) it, I was speaking
10 to her in English, all the time, didn’t matter what she said, I was... ((speech
11 dissolved in a laugh)). And I think, this is odd , you know. Because I knew fine,
12 what I– I was wanting to do, but I– ((pause))
13 EM: Which was to speak Gaelic?
14 Flora: Uh huh, but– it just didn’t happen. And she was almost out the door before I
15 could– before the brain just switched over and ((pause))
16 EM: You were able to?
17 Flora: Yeah.
18 EM: Was she mad?
19 Flora: No, she wasn’t, but she must have thought it really odd (#513).
Le foighidinn, mar a thuirt sibh, agus le tuigse. Chan eil e furasta, ach chan eil e fìor nach gabh a dhèanamh idir.GunChleoc wrote:
... Feumaidh sinn uile a bhith foighidneach ri chèile.
Tha e fior co-dhiù nach eil an giùlan seo a' cuideachadh luchd-ionnsachaidh no staid na Gàidhlig nach eilear a' bruidhinn sa Ghàidhlig ann an suidheachaidhean poblach no ann an coimhearsnachdan measgaichte. Seo cnag na cùise, ciamar a gheibh sinn seachad air?
Neither it does in Southern Bohemia. It's not rare to meet visiting descendants of Czech emigrants to Austria here. If they start speaking in Czech to somebody who judges from the visitor's speech that they are better in German that the visitor is in Czech, nine times out of ten they switch to German.Neas Olc wrote:Not in Québec is doesn't.There is nothing wrong with speaking to somebody in a language that you both have and expecting to get a reply in said language - that is the way it works in any other language after all.
And I remembered another thing. One Steinbeck's character,a Chinese servant in turn of the 20th century US, says this:*GunChleoc* wrote:Nuair a tha thu air ionnsachadh bhon ghlùn gu bheil e gu tur mì-mhodhail a bhith a' bruidhinn sa Ghàidhlig do choigrich no incomers, chan eil e furasta faighinn seachad air.
As I said, I'm rubbish at Gaelic too -- there's no attempt at one-upsmanship in there, and you could just as easily point at my mistakes if I wasn't being an abject coward and writing in English.Lewis91 wrote:Ok Níall Beag, rinn mi mearachd bheag, one letter. Tha mi air a bhith ag ionnsachdadh air mo cheann fhèin, rudeigin nach eil furasda dhomh idir, tha mi fhathast a' stri leis an spelling. Dè na mearachdan eile a rinn mi? Agus, mas e do thoile, gun a bhith schnidey mu dheidhinn.