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Comparative Verb Clauses

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:42 pm
by caiptean
Okay, so I would like to know how to say something like: "I don't run as often as I would like"
where there is a verb clause involving "is".

Would it be "Cha bhi mi a' ruith cho tric ris bu toil leam?"

I haven't really run across many constructions like this so I'm pretty stumped.

Tapadh leibh!

Re: Comparative Verb Clauses

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:25 pm
by Níall Beag
I think "ris" only goes for comparing nouns. My gut reaction is 's : cho tric 's as toil leam, but I'm a learner and I've not been speaking the language much lately....

Re: Comparative Verb Clauses

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:40 pm
by akerbeltz
Tha Niall ceart... the first type applies to any sentence that follows that doesn't involve the copula is (is, 's, bu, b')
tha e cho mòr ri taigh
chan eil e cho mòr ri taigh

The other does:
cha bhi mi a' ruith cho tric 's a bu toigh leam
chan ith mi guga cho ainneamh 's a b' àbhaist dhomh
chuala mi seo cho tric 's nach toigh leam e tuilleadh

Note the last example is one where the copula is notionally there but not audible/visible.

Re: Comparative Verb Clauses

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:04 pm
by caiptean
Awesome! Also, Akerbeltz, I'm having trouble parsing that last example. "I heard this as often as I don't like him more"?

Also, what if I wanted to say something like "I don't have as much as you."?

Re: Comparative Verb Clauses

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:23 pm
by Níall Beag
caiptean wrote:Also, what if I wanted to say something like "I don't have as much as you."?
I think this diverges into a somewhat different idiom. My first guess would be "chan eil an urad* agam 's a tha agad".
(* actually, my first guess was "uraid", but AFB says that's the genitive.)

That's more or less "I don't have the quantity/amount that** you have."
(** actually, plain "that" would be just "a", but I my gut says "'s a" is needed to be more "quantity like what you have". Without it, I think the urad would be implied to be same-thing-same, not essentially-equvalent-same.)

Re: Comparative Verb Clauses

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:50 pm
by Zwalla28
Caiptean - I could be wrong, but I think it's a slightly different format/structure/I'm-not-a-grammarian-I-don't-know-what-it's-called there. I'm thinking "I heard this so often that I don't like it anymore".

Re: Comparative Verb Clauses

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:56 pm
by Seonaidh
More like "I heard this so often that I don't like to [hear it] any more".

"I don't have as much as you" - Chan eil agam uiread ribh/riut

Re: Comparative Verb Clauses

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:15 am
by GunChleoc
Also, the 's in Akerbeltz' example is short for "agus".