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Can someone please tell me what the vocative form is for the name 'Seoc'? I know it would lenite but am uncertain of the vowel transformation. I tried to look it up myself, but could not find any resource that disclosed the slenderization of 'eo'. If anyone knows of such a resource, it would be greatly appreciated if you could pass it along.

Moran taing,
Eòs Buidhe

Am Faclair Beag says it doesn't change (i.e. you can lenite, but not slenderise), probably as it's a Gaelic rendering of a non-Gaelic name:

Seoc /ʃɔxg/
fir. neo-ath.
Jock

But there does seem to be a genitive form of the name in use -
Google throws up some reasonably reputable sources:

an fhèineachd Sheoic an Reubainnear
Rob Mac Sheoic ic a Lagain
Domhnall 'an Sheoic

and vocative is often the same as the genitive in names.

Also note that "eo" doesn't slenderize, "c" does

Eòs Buidhe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:42 pmbut could not find any resource that disclosed the slenderization of 'eo'.

There are only a few vowels that are altered by slenderisation. Slenderisation is usually just done by adding "i" before the consonant, and if you can't find a specific rule for your word to say something else should happen, just stick to adding I.

GunChleoc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:16 pm Also note that "eo" doesn't slenderize, "c" does

The source of Eòs's confusion is things like Nìall -> Nèill/Nìll, where the slenderisation results in a vowel change.

Thanks for the responses! Yes, I assumed "eo" in this case would transform to help assist the slenderization of the "c". I guess I'll proceed with "a Sheoic".