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name in Gaidhlig
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:36 pm
by nipfroggy
Hello,
Could someone tell me how to write Maree in Gaidhlig. Is it the same as in english ?
Please no joke as it is to prepare my engagement.
Merci
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:10 pm
by faoileag
For what it's worth, Loch Maree is the anglicised form of the Gaelic name of the Wester Ross loch, Loch Maruibhe. (Derived from Saint Maelrubha.)
It's not a girl's name.
It has been conflated with the Gaelic version of Mary, which is Màiri.
If your name is pronounced ma-REE, I would leave it as it is.
If it's pronounced MAH-ree, the Gaelic Màiri would be fine.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:45 am
by akerbeltz
Yes, but better spelled MaRuibhe because the stress is on the second bit. Alternatively, Ma Ruibhe is also ok.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:55 am
by faoileag
Yes, you're right, but Maree, just DON'T call yourself that, in any spelling!
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:36 pm
by Níall Beag
Aretez-vous tous!
You're getting ahead of yourselves here.
First of all we've got to ask the woman what this name "Maree" is! You're assuming it's related to "Loch Maree" in Scotland, but you're ignoring the little clue at the bottom of the email: "Merci".
Well, I asked Jeeves and it turns out that "Maree" is a French name meaning "bitter" or "sorrowful". This is not related to "Màiri" -- "Màiri" is derived from the Biblical name "Miriam" and equivalent to the French "Marie", which is entirely different.
This is slightly confused by the American pronunciation, which confuses "Marie" with "Maree", however, we can see that the original poster is not a native English speaker (it is to prepare my engagement), so I'm guessing she makes a distinction.
To sum up:
There is no cognate to "Maree" in Gaelic.
There is also no suitable transliteration as we have no orthographical device suitable to denote either the stress pattern or the vowel quality (I blame the GOC -- it's pretty much "é").
I would never attempt to "tr*nsl*t*" any French name into English (I call Francois "Francois", not "Francis", and I never call Pierre "Peter") so I don't see why I would do so in Gaelic.
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:21 pm
by Seonaidh
O howway Niall bach! Tha mi a' creidsinn gu bheil thu ceart mu dheidhinn "Maree" agus an Fhrangais. Ach, mu dheidhinn "Peter" is "Pierre", tha mi eòlach air duine òg agus 's e Peter an t-ainm a th' air. Mar a thachras, tha e ag ionnsachadh Frangais san sgoil agus tha e ag ràdh "Je m'appelle Pierre". Francois? 's dòcha gur e "fronnsua" a th' ann.
Dè mu dheidhinn "Ma-raidh"? Cha bhi sin eadar-theangachadh idir, ach 's dòcha gum bi e a' riochdachadh an fhuaim.