THA AN AR-A-MACH AIR TÒISEACHADH

neoni · Unread post by **neoni** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:55 pm

GODSPEED, GREECE.

Neas Olc · Unread post by **Neas Olc** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:30 am

???

Thachairt sin 'san Fhraing. Tha an saoghal ann fhathast. Nì a chuis iad e.

Unread post by **Gràisg** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:36 pm

Chuir an còmhradh seo nam chuimhne tachartasan a chunnaic mi ann an Baile Roazhan (Rennes) nuair a fhuair Sarkozy a-steach. Thug mòran daoine na sràidean orra agus air an oidhche bha sabaid chruaidh eatorra agus a' phoileis.
Cha mhòr nach e seòrsa de thradisean a tha e san Fhraing ge-tà agus airson feadhainn dhiubh 's e ealain a th' ann. Restons divisés lol agus Obair! Teaghlach! Telebishean! - OTT! An e sin am mantra againn airson 2008?

neoni · Unread post by **neoni** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:41 pm

we will not accept our money being given to bankers so that they can afford to take our houses.

Seonaidh · Unread post by **Seonaidh** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:29 am

Dè am facal "bankers" a sgrìobh thu? Tha mi cinnteach gu bheil na Sasannaich ga sgrìobhadh le "w"...

Neas Olc · Unread post by **Neas Olc** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:47 am

we will not accept our money being given to bankers so that they can afford to take our houses.

A bheil thu cudthcomach no an ne diatrabe tuairmeach a bh'ann mar an ciad teachdarachd agad?

neoni · Unread post by **neoni** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:49 pm

tha fhios nach e seo an ar-a-mach, ach tha mi gu math serious ma dheidhinn.

neoni · Unread post by **neoni** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:45 pm

A Sunday poll suggested most Greeks see violent protests over the past 10 days as a "popular uprising," not driven by "minority activists."

neoni · Unread post by **neoni** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:20 pm

Could Greece's Riots Spread to France?

no more bonuses for bankers

Unread post by **Gràisg** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:09 pm

From what I saw in France last winter I reckon it could kick off at any time. I don't think French youth want to destroy capitalism though. If they riot it will be for right to indulge with everyone else.

It was quite funny, I thought the French election was like the battle we never saw here. With Royal being the next best thing to Blair and Sarko being the Thatcher figure. Some commentators called Sarko 'Le Pen light'.
The first round was a lot more interesting, there were 12 candidates putting across some very interesting views, I quite liked José Bové (a man that has done time for his anti-GM beliefs) ach cha robh bhòt agam.
cus beurla ann an seo lol

neoni · Unread post by **neoni** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:06 pm

Greece: Police crack down as government and opposition seek to isolate mass protests

By Stefan Steinberg

(16 December 2008) -- Sections of the Greek media and leading politicians have sought to brand as "extremists" and "terrorists" the tens of thousands of Greek students, school pupils and ordinary workers, including immigrants and the employed, who have repeatedly taken part in mass demonstrations in the Greek capital Athens and other major cities.

Initially, demonstrators demanded the prosecution of those police officers responsible for the shooting death of a 15-year-old youth. Increasingly, however, the demonstrations have taken the form of protests against the Greek government and the entire political establishment. One of the most common demands of the protesters is the call for the resignation of the conservative Greek government led by Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis (New Democrats, ND).

Together with the concerted campaign to demonise the protesters, leading newspapers have called for determined police action to repress the mass movement. Last weekend, there were clear indications of a change in police tactics, which in turn points to a decision in leading government circles to isolate, intimidate and suppress the protest movement.

On Sunday, police charged a peaceful candlelit vigil in Syntagma Square, outside the parliament building and the city's Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

The crowd of demonstrators, numbering about 600, confronted several busloads of riot police who began to deploy at the front and back of the demonstration and on side streets.

One eyewitness told the BBC, "After the majority of the protesters had passed one of these side streets, a group of riot police charged and forced about 15 young men and women into a dark shop front on the corner of the street.

"As the protesters put their hands on their heads to signify that they were not intending to fight, the police began beating individuals with their batons, issuing threats of extreme violence. The women were handcuffed together and the men strip-searched."

The witness, a British businessman who speaks Greek, reported that riot police then turned on innocent bystanders: "A riot policeman ran up behind one of the men kicking him in the back making obscene comments about his size. As the man turned, the policeman began beating the young man with his baton, striking him on the head and the side of his face."

The witness said that he overheard the police saying to their detainees, "We have you now. You are out of your universities now.... We are going to kill you."

The BBC report is backed up by an eyewitness report (below) sent to the World Socialist Web Site by a Greek student.

The stepping up of police aggression comes at a time when the political establishment in Greece is closing ranks against the mass protests. The leader of the main opposition party PASOK, Georgiou Papandreou, recently called for new elections. But his party collaborates closely with the government in parliament, and the current Greek president is a former founding member of the organisation.

neoni · Unread post by **neoni** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:09 pm

The propaganda of the government and opposition has been largely rejected by the population. Recent polls make clear that most people think the riots are a social uprising, rather than just a reaction to the police shooting.

According to the BBC, 60 percent of those questioned by the Kathimerini newspaper rejected the assertion that the disturbances have been merely a series of coordinated attacks by a small hard core of anarchists. Another poll, in the left-wing Ethnos newspaper, determined that 83 percent of Greeks were unhappy with the government's response to the violence. Kathimerini put the disapproval rating at 68 percent.

Neas Olc · Unread post by **Neas Olc** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:19 am

Propoganda gu leor a Neoni, tapadh leat. Tha an smaoin againn. Bankers rulz the wurld, kill teh bozzes, anarky nao bit teh hand tat feeds uz and bring daon teh system!!!111!!! <- gu math sean. Nuair a bhitheas ruspal no dhà a losgadh càr bithidh a huile shit disturber a tighinn a mach air an eadar loine. Gach àm. Agus nas intennaiche, bithidh doaine a losgadh stùth agus an deidh bithidh iad air oillseachadh nuair a bhitheas am poileas a freagairt gu brùideal. No shit sherlock...you burn it you earn it.

Oops, mar sin s' e Nazi a th'annam. Duilich.

Some commentators called Sarko 'Le Pen light'.

That's ridiculous- but hey, if the left has no better way of bringing him down, call him a Nazi. Ever heard of the Godwin Law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_Law

"Some commentators"? Maybe "weasel words" would also be good research:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word

neoni · Unread post by **neoni** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:40 pm

tha fhios nach bu chòir dhomh freagairt a thoirt dha seo, ach

Propoganda gu leor a Neoni, tapadh leat.

Tha an smaoin againn. Bankers rulz the wurld, kill teh bozzes, anarky nao bit teh hand tat feeds uz and bring daon teh system!!!111!!! <- gu math sean.

chan eil fhios agam carson a bhiodh tu an dùil gum biodh a' sgrìobhadh mar sin a' sealltainn rud sam bith, oir cha do sgrìobh duine san t-sreath seo mar sin, 's cha tuirt daoine càil mar sin na bu motha.

Nuair a bhitheas ruspal no dhà a losgadh càr bithidh a huile shit disturber a tighinn a mach air an eadar loine. Gach àm. Agus nas intennaiche, bithidh doaine a losgadh stùth agus an deidh bithidh iad air oillseachadh nuair a bhitheas am poileas a freagairt gu brùideal. No shit sherlock...you burn it you earn it.

nach do leugh thu na chur mi ann?

On Sunday, police charged a peaceful candlelit vigilin Syntagma Square

That's ridiculous- but hey, if the left has no better way of bringing him down, call him a Nazi. Ever heard of the Godwin Law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_Law

"Some commentators"? Maybe "weasel words" would also be good research:

agus thuirt 'some commentators' gum b' e socialist a bh' ann an obama. chan eil sin a' ciallachadh rud sam bith. 's leis an fhìrinn, cha robh thusa a' sgrìobhadh mar 12y/o fada na b' fheàrr.

dè an co-dhùnadh a bhiodh agadsa? nach dèanadh iad rud sam bith, is dìreach feitheamh gus an ath thaghadh?

Unread post by **Níall Beag** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:11 am

neoni wrote:Nuair a bhitheas ruspal no dhà a losgadh càr bithidh a huile shit disturber a tighinn a mach air an eadar loine. Gach àm. Agus nas intennaiche, bithidh doaine a losgadh stùth agus an deidh bithidh iad air oillseachadh nuair a bhitheas am poileas a freagairt gu brùideal. No shit sherlock...you burn it you earn it.

nach do leugh thu na chur mi ann?

On Sunday, police charged a peaceful candlelit vigilin Syntagma Square

He said "you burn it, you earn it". If it was candlelit, they were burning stuff. ARSONISTS!!!111!!!!

As for "biting the hand that feeds"....
Uill... Thoisich mi ag obair o chionn trì bliadhna, agus bliadhna as deidh bliahdna, tha mo salary air tuiteam. Yeah, I've had raises, but less than inflation. Capitalist industrialism gave us unprecedented growth but the system has been slowly corrupted and power overcentralised. Feumaidh rudeigin atharrachadh.

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