Another beginner!

david · Unread post by **david** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:20 pm

Cimar a tha thu all . Is mise David tha mi ag ionnsachadh Gaelic agus tha mi a fuireach ann an Inbhir Chluaidh Alaba,
Tha an cu aig an doras tha e Bobby tha e small agus breagha
(really)better take him out
I look forward to meeting you all later
and getting all the help that i can
i do need it as you can see.....

Unread post by **Gràisg** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:22 pm

Halò Dhàibhidh, fàilte chridheil oirbh

loads of folk here willing to help

how to say someone's or a pet's name
'tha e Bobby tha e small'
'S e Bobby a t' ainm a th' air, tha e beag agus...

Unread post by **GunChleoc** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:53 am

Fàilte ort a Dhaibhidh!

david · Unread post by **david** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:10 pm

Latha math dhuidh
Tha mi an seo
Dhàibhidh again

ciamar a tha thu fhein?
far too racy i'm only starting lol................. one day!
bidh sin snog!!!!

'S e Bobby a t' ainm a th' air, tha e beag agus...
soon as i saw this i knew how wrong i was

tha mi a'tuigsinn,'s e oileanach a th'annam dhà hours per week

sorry i am terrible i know
thank you both

Oileanach chànan chuthachail
Na cairtean-phuist agam

do you know apart from the 1st and lst words from the two lines above which i know i cant find the others in the dictionary i have

yes indeed!
Is beag ormsa Gàidhig dictionaries

chan eil mi a t'uigsinn mostly but i wil persevere
tha mi a' dol dhan bhalie drama uisge beatha methinks!

~Sìle~ · Unread post by **~Sìle~** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:27 pm

Halò Dhàibhidh, from a fellow beginner.

david · Unread post by **david** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:17 pm

its difficult isnt it being a beginner

Im doing a couple of hours a week in a
beginners class
sometimes i feel like giving up
its the memory i think trying to retain so many new words
but i am going to keep at it
we are all in the same boat i suppose being beginners, how are you doing?
are you advancing do you think......................... is your head sore

~Sìle~ · Unread post by **~Sìle~** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:31 pm

david wrote:its difficult isnt it being a beginner
Im doing a couple of hours a week in a
beginners class
sometimes i feel like giving up
its the memory i think trying to retain so many new words
but i am going to keep at it
we are all in the same boat i suppose being beginners, how are you doing?
are you advancing do you think......................... is your head sore

I am mostly learning from the TY book, but am getting a bit of private tutoring for speaking/conversational purposes. I've only had 2 lessons, being as I started before xmas, and was also ill, so haven't progressed very far at all.

Am starting up again next week, so hope to progress quickly.

Seonaidh · Unread post by **Seonaidh** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:34 pm

Fàilte oirbh, a Dhaibhidh is Ògansdottir (tha mi duilich - Icelandic)

Is mise Seonaidh - [I'm Wombat-features]
'S e Seonaidh an [note that, an] t-ainm a th' orm
(or, in fuller form, Is e Seonaidh an t-ainm a tha orm)
[It's Aardvark-snout the name that's on me]

There's no big secret to learning Gaelic - just cùmaibh a' dol. It does help if you're in a position to talk wi folk in Gaelic. If not, just talk to your self in Gaelic. And don't forget to answer!

Words - come with time. If you're stuck, the important thing is to put it in a Gaelic way, with non-Gaelic words if ye cannae think of the word.

So, try - Halo - dè an t-ainm a th' ort?
- 'S e Daibhidh an t-ainm a th'orm. Dè an t-ainm a th' ortsa?
- Och, 's e Hermione an t-ainm a th' ormsa. Ciamar a tha thu?
- Tha mi gu math, tapadh leat. Agus thusa?
- Chan eil mi dona.

And, if you get stuck, - Dè "word" anns a' Ghàidhlig?

O dear, carried away again. Anyway, Fàilte!

ScotiaBalach · Unread post by **ScotiaBalach** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:09 pm

david wrote:Cimar a tha thu all . Is mise David tha mi ag ionnsachadh Gaelic agus tha mi a fuireach ann an Inbhir Chluaidh Alaba,
Tha an cu aig an doras tha e Bobby tha e small agus breagha
(really)better take him out
I look forward to meeting you all later
and getting all the help that i can
i do need it as you can see.....

Hey, go easy on yourself, you speak better than myself!

Unread post by **GunChleoc** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:25 am

If you're having trouble finding stuff in a dictionary, check out the following guide:

http://www.foramnagaidhlig.net/index.php?page=23

If the word actually isn't in your dictionary, because it's too small, you can always resort to the online-dictionary which at least gives you a word list http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaidhlig/faclair/sbg/lorg.php

And don't worry about memorizing all those words, it takes time. Allow yourself that time and you'll be fine. Just keep practicing

Seonaidh · Unread post by **Seonaidh** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:19 pm

GunChleoc wrote:If the word actually isn't in your dictionary, because it's too small, you can always resort to the online-dictionary which at least gives you a word list http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaidhlig/faclair/sbg/lorg.php

Dè seòrsa facal a tha ro bheag airson a lorgadh ann am faclair?

Unread post by **GunChleoc** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:05 am

Bha mi a' ciallachadh am faclair is chan ann am facal

eideard · Unread post by **eideard** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:38 pm

david wrote:
Oileanach chànan chuthachail
Na cairtean-phuist agam

do you know apart from the 1st and lst words from the two lines above which i know i cant find the others in the dictionary i have

You may not have learned about lenition yet, but for words like "chànan"and "chuthachail" just take out the "h" when you look them up in the dictionary, giving you cànan (language) and cuthachail (outrageous).

Cairtean-phuist is the plural of cairt-phost, a post card.

It all takes time, but don't despair; it'll come.

david · Unread post by **david** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:44 pm

eideard lenition it yet to come i fear

thanks for the tip re the h
Seonaidh and GunChleoc thanks for the great links

Aardvark this is an odd name that is on you

and i am talking to myself a lot people give me strange looks as i walk down the street singing
tha bean akam
tha taigh akam tha allt aig ceann an taigh agam
etc etc
what strange language is the man speaking i see them thinking
little do the know eh,
paticularly in Greenock!
and thanks for the little lesson Seonaidh
i do find everything helpful
if i can grasp it to some extend
like with you post to me thanks
and mabe i am to hard on myself at times

or mabe

ScotiaBalach get away with you................. thanks
Nicògan we are on a mission !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seonaidh · Unread post by **Seonaidh** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:28 pm

Think of yourself as "Dàibhidh": you can pronounce it very much like "Davie".

As for lenition, just think how hard it is to learn English, with all this business about adding an S onto a verb (usually) in the 3rd person singular. Or knowing when to stick an apostrophe in and where, e.g. in genitives. And sticking ED onto verbs to make them past - except when you change them completely or leave them as they are. Such a headache - however did you ever master English?

Every language has its little foibles. If you feel maybe "lenition" is hard (because it doesn't actually formally happen in English - though there is a bit, e.g. the sound changes between "house" (n) and "house" (v), "cleave"-"cleft", "knife"-"knives", "send"-"sent"...I could go on.), consider this: there are (at least) THREE different types of such sound changes in Welsh (of which a hybrid of two, which does also occur, is fairly similar to "lenition" in Gaelic).

Cùm a' dol! (you'll probably find the first under "cumail" and the last under "rach" or "theirig"...)

Fòram na Gàidhlig