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Another beginner!

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:20 pm
by david
Cimar a tha thu all . Is mise David tha mi ag ionnsachadh Gaelic agus tha mi a fuireach ann an Inbhir Chluaidh Alaba,
Tha an cu aig an doras tha e Bobby tha e small agus breagha
(really)better take him out
I look forward to meeting you all later
and getting all the help that i can
i do need it as you can see..... :)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:22 pm
by Gràisg
Halò Dhàibhidh, fàilte chridheil oirbh

loads of folk here willing to help :)

how to say someone's or a pet's name
'tha e Bobby tha e small'
'S e Bobby a t' ainm a th' air, tha e beag agus...

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:53 am
by GunChleoc
Fàilte ort a Dhaibhidh! :D

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:10 pm
by david
Latha math dhuidh
Tha mi an seo
Dhàibhidh again :P ciamar a tha thu fhein?
far too racy i'm only starting lol................. one day!
bidh sin snog!!!!
:naire: :lol:
'S e Bobby a t' ainm a th' air, tha e beag agus...
soon as i saw this i knew how wrong i was :roll:
tha mi a'tuigsinn,'s e oileanach a th'annam dhà hours per week :roll: sorry i am terrible i know
thank you both

Oileanach chànan chuthachail
Na cairtean-phuist
agam

do you know apart from the 1st and lst words from the two lines above which i know i cant find the others in the dictionary i have :lol: :naire: :mc:
yes indeed!
Is beag ormsa Gàidhig dictionaries :lol: chan eil mi a t'uigsinn mostly but i wil persevere
tha mi a' dol dhan bhalie drama uisge beatha methinks!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:27 pm
by ~Sìle~
Halò Dhàibhidh, from a fellow beginner. :priob:

Feasger mat a NicÒgan

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:17 pm
by david
its difficult isnt it being a beginner :cuidich:
Im doing a couple of hours a week in a
beginners class
sometimes i feel like giving up
its the memory i think trying to retain so many new words
but i am going to keep at it
we are all in the same boat i suppose being beginners, how are you doing?
are you advancing do you think......................... is your head sore
:balla: :lol:

Re: Feasger mat a NicÒgan

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:31 pm
by ~Sìle~
david wrote:its difficult isnt it being a beginner :cuidich:
Im doing a couple of hours a week in a
beginners class
sometimes i feel like giving up
its the memory i think trying to retain so many new words
but i am going to keep at it
we are all in the same boat i suppose being beginners, how are you doing?
are you advancing do you think......................... is your head sore
:balla: :lol:
I am mostly learning from the TY book, but am getting a bit of private tutoring for speaking/conversational purposes. I've only had 2 lessons, being as I started before xmas, and was also ill, so haven't progressed very far at all. :roll: Am starting up again next week, so hope to progress quickly. :D

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:34 pm
by Seonaidh
Fàilte oirbh, a Dhaibhidh is Ògansdottir (tha mi duilich - Icelandic)

Is mise Seonaidh - [I'm Wombat-features]
'S e Seonaidh an [note that, an] t-ainm a th' orm
(or, in fuller form, Is e Seonaidh an t-ainm a tha orm)
[It's Aardvark-snout the name that's on me]

There's no big secret to learning Gaelic - just cùmaibh a' dol. It does help if you're in a position to talk wi folk in Gaelic. If not, just talk to your self in Gaelic. And don't forget to answer!

Words - come with time. If you're stuck, the important thing is to put it in a Gaelic way, with non-Gaelic words if ye cannae think of the word.

So, try - Halo - dè an t-ainm a th' ort?
- 'S e Daibhidh an t-ainm a th'orm. Dè an t-ainm a th' ortsa?
- Och, 's e Hermione an t-ainm a th' ormsa. Ciamar a tha thu?
- Tha mi gu math, tapadh leat. Agus thusa?
- Chan eil mi dona.

And, if you get stuck, - Dè "word" anns a' Ghàidhlig?

O dear, carried away again. Anyway, Fàilte!

Re: Another beginner!

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:09 pm
by ScotiaBalach
david wrote:Cimar a tha thu all . Is mise David tha mi ag ionnsachadh Gaelic agus tha mi a fuireach ann an Inbhir Chluaidh Alaba,
Tha an cu aig an doras tha e Bobby tha e small agus breagha
(really)better take him out
I look forward to meeting you all later
and getting all the help that i can
i do need it as you can see..... :)
Hey, go easy on yourself, you speak better than myself!

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:25 am
by GunChleoc
If you're having trouble finding stuff in a dictionary, check out the following guide:

http://www.foramnagaidhlig.net/index.php?page=23

If the word actually isn't in your dictionary, because it's too small, you can always resort to the online-dictionary which at least gives you a word list http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaidhlig/faclair/sbg/lorg.php

And don't worry about memorizing all those words, it takes time. Allow yourself that time and you'll be fine. Just keep practicing :D

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:19 pm
by Seonaidh
GunChleoc wrote:If the word actually isn't in your dictionary, because it's too small, you can always resort to the online-dictionary which at least gives you a word list http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaidhlig/faclair/sbg/lorg.php
Dè seòrsa facal a tha ro bheag airson a lorgadh ann am faclair? :spors:

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:05 am
by GunChleoc
Bha mi a' ciallachadh am faclair is chan ann am facal :P

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:38 pm
by eideard
david wrote:
Oileanach chànan chuthachail
Na cairtean-phuist
agam

do you know apart from the 1st and lst words from the two lines above which i know i cant find the others in the dictionary i have :lol: :naire: :mc:
You may not have learned about lenition yet, but for words like "chànan"and "chuthachail" just take out the "h" when you look them up in the dictionary, giving you cànan (language) and cuthachail (outrageous).

Cairtean-phuist is the plural of cairt-phost, a post card.

It all takes time, but don't despair; it'll come.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:44 pm
by david
eideard lenition it yet to come i fear :D
thanks for the tip re the h
Seonaidh and GunChleoc thanks for the great links 8-) Aardvark this is an odd name that is on you :D and i am talking to myself a lot people give me strange looks as i walk down the street singing
tha bean akam
tha taigh akam tha allt aig ceann an taigh agam
etc etc
what strange language is the man speaking i see them thinking
little do the know eh,
paticularly in Greenock!
and thanks for the little lesson Seonaidh
i do find everything helpful
if i can grasp it to some extend
like with you post to me thanks
and mabe i am to hard on myself at times :( or mabe :lol:
ScotiaBalach get away with you................. thanks
Nicògan we are on a mission !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:28 pm
by Seonaidh
Think of yourself as "Dàibhidh": you can pronounce it very much like "Davie".

As for lenition, just think how hard it is to learn English, with all this business about adding an S onto a verb (usually) in the 3rd person singular. Or knowing when to stick an apostrophe in and where, e.g. in genitives. And sticking ED onto verbs to make them past - except when you change them completely or leave them as they are. Such a headache - however did you ever master English?

Every language has its little foibles. If you feel maybe "lenition" is hard (because it doesn't actually formally happen in English - though there is a bit, e.g. the sound changes between "house" (n) and "house" (v), "cleave"-"cleft", "knife"-"knives", "send"-"sent"...I could go on.), consider this: there are (at least) THREE different types of such sound changes in Welsh (of which a hybrid of two, which does also occur, is fairly similar to "lenition" in Gaelic).

Cùm a' dol! (you'll probably find the first under "cumail" and the last under "rach" or "theirig"...)